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    I see it posted here on this thread that AA’s definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results. Not so. The Big Book says that it is a lack of proportion (in thinking) and of the ability to think straight.

    The form of insanity being refrerred to is in regards to alcohol-the peculiar mental twist that, despite all the evidence to the contrary, says “this time it will be different.” What is the root of this malady? Quite simply, the root of our trouble is selfishness and self-centeredness. Literally being driven (not choosing) by fear, self-delusion, self-seeking, self pity, etc. back to a drink. Resentment being the number one offender because it seperates me from you & from God. When harbouring such feelings I am shut off from the sunlight of spirit and I become insane and I drink. Seperation=insanity. Shutoff from God, there is no choice but to drink.

    I don’t mistake immaturity or foolish mistakes for insanity. I don’t mistake the busy-ness of life for insanity. I don’t mistake grief, depression, etc. for insanity. Insanity for an alcoholic happens when he/she takes drink, having full knowledge of themselves as an alcoholic.
    Jim



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    Anonymous

    Ah. So, my worrying about various situations where I would be tempted to drink, is in effect, not believing in something more powerful than myself?



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    Anonymous

    @jimhere 1390952 wrote:

    The form of insanity being refrerred to is in regards to alcohol-the peculiar mental twist that, despite all the evidence to the contrary, says “this time it will be different.” What is the root of this malady? Quite simply, the root of our trouble is selfishness and self-centeredness. Literally being driven (not choosing) by fear, self-delusion, self-seeking, self pity, etc. back to a drink. Resentment being the number one offender because it seperates me from you & from God. When harbouring such feelings I am shut off from the sunlight of spirit and I become insane and I drink. Seperation=insanity. Shutoff from God, there is no choice but to drink. Jim

    This particular section of your reply really struck a chord. I am not a user but living with an active A and it helps me to understand the problem and possibly have a little more sympathy and kindness toward him. Maybe. I struggle with this every day because although I know he is suffering his own hell trying to decide what help he is going to get, or if he even needs to get any (although I suspect he knows he can’t do this on his own) our family and especially me are suffering too and at his hands. It is his decision to get help or not. It is my decision to live with him for now while working Al-Anon with hope that he will decide to get help before I am the one who becomes insane or decides I can’t do this anymore. I hope this program will help me too. Sometimes I think I am the one who is insane for subjecting myself to this abuse.

    jenny



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