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- February 6, 2017 at 9:22 pm #4862500
That unmanageability thing, it doesn’t have to be such that you are in the gutter, or that you’ve lost your job or that you’ve been in trouble with law or anything like that…
Put that aside for now if you have to. I did at first and then as I moved through the steps my unmanageability came to me.
Keep posting…. There was an awesome thread on this a week or two ago… maybe I can find it.February 6, 2017 at 9:43 pm #4862512
I’m beginning to think maybe I need a secular alternative to AA though.
Just so we’re clear what we’re talking about, AA is NOT a religious program–it’s a spiritual one. Sounds like hair-splitting, but it really isn’t. I know happily sober people in AA who are atheists and agnostics.
All that is required for a spiritual awakening (which is defined as a “personality change sufficient to recover from alcoholism”) is reliance on a Power greater than yourself. Right now, alcohol is a Power greater than yourself, isn’t it? Ever tried to beat gravity? That’s a Power greater than yourself.
A lot of people in AA (and the Steps, themselves) refer to “God” but “God” is defined in whatever way makes sense to you. It could be the Power of the universe. It does not have to be a deity, or a particular deity.
Just wanted to clear that up. AA is NOT the only way to recover (although it has been known to work for those who could not succeed any other way), but it’s a great way of life.February 7, 2017 at 8:08 am #4862515
I would like to point out a couple of things.
1. You can’t manage your life without at least 1.75 liters of vodka a week. If you need to drink to function through life, then that is a pretty serious sign.
2. You managed to elicit horror and concern from your significant other. If you were managing your life better, then you wouldn’t horrify people around you.
Just from your first two posts, there are signs of unmanageably in your life due to your drinking.
Anyways, welcome aboard. Dive in, ask questions, post, and read. Hopefully, you find what you need and/or looking for.
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